So in 1976 suddenly people had 20-20 hindsight on 1975. There is no evidence that there was any dissent before that, there are plenty of recordings, writings and letter that detail what people truly believed at that point. Off course people are going to try to find a scapegoat and who else but someone who later was “disloyal”, yet no evidence anyone spoke up before 1975. How about all the other dates and events that spelled the end since 1843?
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What Really Happened (Back Then) With The False Teaching Of 1975 Among Jehovah's Witnesses?
by 1975JWExpert ina close comparison of two distinct paragraphs written in the watchtower magazines .
.. the july 15th, 1976 watchtower magazine quote:
"but it is not advisable for us to set our sites on a certain date... if anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of god that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.
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What is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?
by StephaneLaliberte inwhat is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?
does any one has an actual number?
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Anony Mous
So about a decade ago I know it was about $100 for a “young” bethelite, and they got allowances for travel and clothing. Married and people that had been there for long times, they have a system of overseers etc got more.
There was great emphasis from the branch that the congregation assigned would be supporting their travel as well, which off course was not give it to the bethelite but send it as part of world wide work.
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What is the Evidence for a Common Ancestor for Eukaryotic and Prokaryotic Cells?
by Sea Breeze inprokaryotes.
eukaryotes.
lysosomes and centrosomes are present.
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Anony Mous
So you post a picture of extension cords that were recently mathematically proven will entangle themselves through random interactions and then claim the same cannot be done in nature.
Anyone knows complexity arises from simple rules, play any game in history, with as few simple rules like Go and the possibilities are literally endless.
That being said, what is the evidence: all the simpler single and multi-cell organism you ignored. This is like textbook evolutionary science, high school or first year college textbooks should cover this topic. There are plenty of evidence of simpler life forms both modern and fossilized at the geological scales.
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Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?
by careful inthe war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.
especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.
yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.
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Anony Mous
@road: and when we contemplated draft dodging we were going to be DFed because it was illegal and illegal stuff makes you a bad witness, better sit in jail. How the times have changed, I heard from someone else they started appointing illegal immigrants as ministerial servants and they carry mikes as well.
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Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?
by careful inthe war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.
especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.
yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.
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Anony Mous
The Ukrainian government has recently banned lots of religions it deems to go against its interests, especially going after evangelicals and other Christians the WEF deems dangerous to its progressive agenda. If JWs were still hardcore pacifist and anti-government, they would probably be in trouble.
Like everything else, I think the WTBTS is going to be talking out of both sides and split the baby, like it did when tons of black JW voted for Obama, they just kind of did a tisk tisk at the convention which was the first time I noticed a big change in their approach.
I’m sure there are JW swept up in the nationalist socialism prevalent in Ukraine or the Putin communist propaganda on the other side. The times of going hard against a cause like they did at the time of the Vietnam war and post WW2 mandatory service is over. I was trained from young age to go 2 years to jail for service with fiery speeches from CO and conventions and this was later converted to a possibility of public service and then rescinded just a few years before my 18th birthday, now, they can’t be bothered to draw a line, just speaking in platitudes.
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Glad to see someone in the WT Art Dept has a sense of humour! "Church Lady" spotted singing!
by WingCommander inyou can't make this shit up!
lol!!!!
someone over on reddit posted this illustration from some wt publication or website or whatever.
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Anony Mous
Looks to me to be in the style of North Korean propaganda
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Can God Change his Mind?
by peacefulpete inis 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.
does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.
when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?
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Anony Mous
There are plenty of evolutionary reasons to invent religion. What we see today is a distillation of many similar ideas that eventually harken back to being afraid of the dark. Apparently the humans that could imagine something terrible in the dark lived longer than those that didn’t, which makes sense and reinforces that something terrible lives in the dark. From there it is ghost stories that develop into tribal and later communal knowledge. Not hard to imagine, every child does it.
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Irán attacks....
by mikeflood injust a moment ago irán started to attack israel, guess they're gonna end in ruins because israel has a way better army than other country in the region and the support of the us....hope the gas prices don't increase too much.... wonder how the borg gonna spin it..
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Anony Mous
@peacefulpete: not sure where you get your information, but this is relatively easy to find:
The Biden administration on November 14 extended a sanctions waiver to allow Iran to access upwards of $10 billion in electricity revenue once held in escrow in Iraq.Nov 15, 2023
The Iranian government now has access to $6 billion of their funds to be used for humanitarian purposes as a part of a wider deal that allowed five Americans who had been imprisoned in Iran to go free. Sep 18 2023
Multiple reports also suggest Washington is allowing Tehran to trade $7 billion in International Monetary Fund special drawing rights for fiat currency.
US officials now admit they’re allowing Iranian oil exports to China to skyrocket with estimates ranging from 1.4 to 2.2 million barrels per day flowing in August — their highest levels since President Donald Trump ended America’s participation in the old Iran nuclear deal.
Conservative estimates put this sanctions relief at $25 billion in annual revenue. Iran is now eyeing the transfer of another $3 billion from Japan. (Sep 12 2023).
As far as what Iran did, it was an attempt at killing thousands of Jews, it was an unprovoked attack on sovereign territory, Israel rightly slammed back on Iranian territory in concert with the Saudi and Jordanian military.
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Irán attacks....
by mikeflood injust a moment ago irán started to attack israel, guess they're gonna end in ruins because israel has a way better army than other country in the region and the support of the us....hope the gas prices don't increase too much.... wonder how the borg gonna spin it..
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Anony Mous
Israël did not bomb an embassy, it targeted with a precision rocket strike a military compound. Per international law, you cannot use an embassy as a military base, which Iran does on a regular basis just like Hamas and the UN uses schools and hospitals in Gaza as military compounds in violation of the Geneva convention just so the useful idiots in the West have something to crow about when they get struck.
All that needs to be done is put Iran back under Trump’s economic embargo, instead the Biden admin funded this entire war.
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Super Duper Awkward
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?
i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.
complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..
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Anony Mous
I do get where those stories are coming from though. When I was young, and I did things that perhaps people shouldn't do, I made up excuses and when I was young, it was easy to blame a friend for goading you into doing something bad, later on, it became a bit harder and when a young adult, I used alcohol as a crutch.
But yeah, the whole "my classmates made me do it" and "everyone does it" and "they forced me to do it" is just an excuse teenagers will use for doing things they know they shouldn't be doing and in the cult you can even get a part at the circuit assembly talking about some exaggerated story, I was the one on that platform, although despite my story which started off pretty tame (in reality I talked to a friend and gave them a tract), the thing became produced, they rewrote my story using a WT article trying to make a point and basically the whole thing was an act.